#bladder prolapsed

[saentorine]

"I don’t mind paying to use public restrooms because the paid ones are cleaner!” Then you clearly do not experience the profound frequency that can make paying-per-pee an itemized travel expense akin to an extra meal in my food budget, nor the level of urgency that has prevented me from ever turning down a restroom opportunity when I need it, which is constantly. We are not the same.

[jiyoos]

work was stupid. one of our housekeepers tried to fight another and got escorted off the premises. then was like “i don’t want to lose my job!” it’s housekeeping. we all have our own boards. we literally don’t need to interact let alone come to blows. and you’re almost 40 lmfao. learn how to control your emotions.

[antiterf]

i keep hearing anti-trans people citing studies claiming that trans men who take testosterone always get pelvic floor dysfunction and now i'm afraid to take testosterone

TW: This post has a lot of talk specifically of genitalia and reproductive healthcare, with specific focus on cis women since that's where the research is. It's important to know but I want to give a fair warning for dysphoria.

It's weird that you sent this legitimately when I was looking for stats on that. This is oddly convenient. That never happens.

Pelvic floor dysfunction is incredibly common and while it can get to a point of being severe (prolapse) it's usually constipation, straining, bladder control and regarding mostly AFAB people, pain during vaginal sex.

From what research there is, it does seem that pelvic pain is incredibly common with trans men on testosterone. There's also not a pre and post testosterone question which... should be important. There's also no control group.

There is a recent study that reports that 94.1% of trans men have PFD, but it seems to be lower quality. I'm not saying that to try and completely dismiss it. There's no control group when it would be completely doable for this sort of study. They also don't ask if these symptoms had occurred prior to starting hrt or after.

(Sorry sci hub doesn't have it)

So we can't be positive, but what evidence we do have points to trans men having pelvic pain and PFD while on hrt. Both are honestly really general, and don't inherently mean that prolapse will happen (or "Your vagina will fall out, into the toilet, and you'll flush it down and never get it back. Then you die." Which I'm being partially satirical with that but wouldn't be shocked if some transphobe tried using it).

PFD is treatable with therapy and medication, sometimes surgery, but usually its not needed. There are plenty of trans men and trans mascs who use vaginal estrogen cream to help with dryness and atrophy. PFD is, again, common:

For women of childbearing age, PFD and POP are very common, and 65.8% of women over 40 years report at least one complaint of sexual dysfunction.

And it's likely you'll get it at some point regardless of starting HRT or not.

It's honestly upsetting that such a common, treatable, issue is described as apocalyptic. Like, it's still an important issue to be aware of, and in the studies I link there is mention of participants getting a hysterectomy specifically for pelvic pain. There are a lot of unknowns or barely knowns we have to accept when we start HRT. But don't let people tell you that the worst possible scenario will happen or give you fear mongered healthcare.

If it helps, I fall into the group of PFD and have for my entire life due to IBS. When it comes to intercourse, I do bleed a lot more easily, but often it's just being lubricated. I also take lactobacillus as a probiotic, which is the bacteria that we usually have less of compared to cis women while on hrt. Mainly because it's the best probiotic one for my ibs, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's also helped with vaginal health.

I hope this stuff helps!

[pillarsalt]

getting a hysto because i literally just do not want that organ. i wield the power of modern medicine and a separate savings account

Nobody can stop you, least of all me, but please know the risks and side effects so you can at least be prepared for them. You'd be removing an organ that is integral to the structure of your pelvic organs, including your pelvic skeletal integrity, and you need to watch out for things like bladder prolapse. You should also start taking precautions against developing dementia, for which the risk factor increases markedly in women who have a hysterectomy before they naturally reach menopause.

I'm not even saying this to scare you, doctors will not warn you about this shit until it happens because the medical industry does not give a shit about women's health. I hope everything goes well, I hope you stay healthy.

[millerflintstone]

My former neighbor friend who moved into an assisted living community with her husband last year is recovering from a hysterectomy to correct bladder prolapse. She is 80. The procedure was yesterday.

I checked in on her a little bit ago and she mentioned she slept so well that she's glad she didn't have a stretching appointment this week. She goes to one of those stretching places every week.

"I'm glad I didn't make an appointment for today but I can probably go next week"

🤦🏽‍♀️

So I asked her when her doctor said she could do physical activity and she's not cleared for physical activity until 6 weeks after surgery. I explained that it counts as physical activity and she probably shouldn't attempt it until her doctor clears her. She's going to wait until her 2 week checkup and then ask at that appointment.

She also mentioned probably having to take care of her young grandson next weekend and I also mentioned that she's really not going to know her level of exhaustion or how soon that will happen until the next few weeks. I figure she'll probably over commit herself at some point and over do it.

[cbk1000]

Anyway, remember that one too-long fic I wrote about dumb gay people pissing about in Yorkshire with some cows? Here's another preview for the sequel to it:

The rain had lived up (or rather down) that month to all those expectations which Yorkshiremen have of May, when that blessed country might be either the very embodiment of God’s chosen, or abandoned; and on a day when it was coming down like stair rods, in the local parlance, and like horse piss, in Merlin’s, and a sheep had decided to get into difficulties (not, of course, in barn or shed, but in a sopping field in which he was obliged to kneel with the struggling animal whose progeny were making as much of a cock-up of the birth as the rain was making of his jeans), he decided to broach Arthur’s mood, on the logic that they might as well get all of the nastiness over at once. The three were in accord: weather, birth, temperament, and though he could do nothing for the first, he was sorting out the second, and might as well have a go at the last.

“What’s wrong with you?” he asked, fishing out a leg from that Shiva-limbed confusion.

“What?” Arthur asked. He was huddled into his jacket, looking exactly as pleasant as the sky.

“You’ve been in A Mood ever since we got back from the wedding, so either let me beat up your dad, or tell me what’s bothering you.”

“So, my options are: let you physically assault a man twice your age, or tell you something that’s frankly none of your business.”

“Oh, please, like Uther’s some frail old man. Pretty sure he could take a pounding as well as his son.”

“Never, ever, ever say anything like that to me again.”

“Different kinds of poundings, obviously. I mean, so far as I know. I was just trying to say the sturdiness is genetic, I’m sure, and there’s no harm in me punching him in the face.”

“Right,” Arthur said, and rolled his eyes, and knelt down to dry each lamb Merlin passed off after he had clipped the umbilical cord and sterilised the naval area. The farmer, seeing all was well in hand, had gone in for tea, and likely was tarrying there to let the youths ride out that grim business in their sturdy young bodies, which, Merlin found, did not feel nearly so young laid out in the mud, with the wind getting in under their collar. He was shivering in his wet knit cap and torn coat, which Arthur had endured quite uncharacteristically admirably, till finally, when Merlin had pulled out the last lamb, and with chattering teeth was completing the business of severing and sterilising the final cord, he said, “For God’s sake” and tossed one of the towels which had been brought out for the lambs over him, and briskly rubbed down his shoulders.

The farmer returned with tea, and the news that one of the ewes who had given birth the day before had completely prolapsed her uterus.

“Well, this one’s at least sorted,” Merlin said tiredly. “Just needed an epidural and a bit of musical legs. Let’s have a look at the other.”

The other was a sweet little lady called Jenni, who was standing with the telltale red mass the size of a tennis ball protruding from her, and bleating uncertainly. They were in a shed at least this time, so he could make a thorough examination in comparable comfort, during which he remarked with relief there were no tears, but merely what looked to him a relatively straightforward prolapse, which could be put back with a bit of patience. He injected a little anaesthetic, then washed the prolapse in warm water which the farmer had brought, and into which he had generously mixed some disinfectant. Then the bladder was emptied, which Merlin explained to Arthur could generally be achieved by simply elevating the prolapsed tissue till the urethra was straightened, and which he saw now to his pleasure was all, indeed, this one would require, instead of puncturing the vaginal wall with a needle, which occasionally such cases necessitated. Next he lubricated the vagina generously, carefully reinserted it, and then stood, with his hand casually in that intimate position, waiting till it was warm to the touch again. The farmer had gone off once more to see to other business, now men of experience were about this one, and so he decided he might as well, whilst dawdling about with the vagina, see why Arthur had been doing his own impression of some wounded genitalia.

“So,” he said, waiting with his hand up the ewe for it to be ready for suturing, “you going to tell me why you’ve been grumpy even for you?”

“I haven’t been.”

“Yes you have. Morgana and I have been complaining about it behind your back all week.”

“It hasn’t been behind my back, you’ve said, to my face, multiple times, ‘Why are you such a sour cunt?’ And that was polite, compared to what Morgana said.”

“Well, why have you? Look, if you’re worried I’ll get into it with your dad after hearing in-depth what an arse he is, don’t worry, I’ll only ring my aunty who’s a witch and ask her to curse him.”

“She’s not a witch.”

“You Englishmen are always shitting on our proud heritage.”

[bigweldindustries]

every day i discover a new horrible way my disabilities/defects might interact and it puts the fear of god into me (just found out that it is possible for the bladder to prolapse into the vagina and two possible causes are EDS (which I have) and chronic cough (which I am extremely prone to due to my shitty deformed lungs). gonna be worrying about this every time i get a cough (i.e all winter every winter) for the rest of my life now thanks x)

[inconstantpain42]

I am not really sure how it's started. In July i had a polip removal and they put the mirena coil in me...i was bleeding all the tome and had some mild pain and discomfort. After my dad died i went to Poland to clean the house and to make gastroscopy because here in UK I could not afford it. Second day in Poland got me acute Bronchitis (I guess from the plain aircondition) and I ended up in hospital. It was nightmare, not sleeping, bad food but they got me better and I asked to be released after 5 days, and they did with antibiotic for the next 2 weeks. After that I went to do private endoscopy which gave me another 2 weeks of antibiotics. I didn't take it well and when I came back to UK doctor switched to different.5 weeks of antibiotics..in hospital they have checked my coil and they said its too deep so they repositioned it but it didnt help with pain or bleeding..A week after I came back I hurted my back by pushing on my own the huge chair upstairs which I bought for my daughter.

I dont know why I did this but the back pain was so severe I thought i will die....I got diazepam for few days on A&E and went to toilet and I think I strained myself to much with suppositories becasue the pain in my back worsen....and it's been already 2 months exactly 2 months like this...Pain from my back progressed to my low stomach and I lost function of bladder. I had catherer for 1month and the bladder is working but I don't feel when it's full, need to press with my hand on it to feel sharp pain than I know its time to go wee....I have a pain in my tail bone as well going to my annus and horrible pain of my vagina. My theory is it's a pelvic prolapse but the doctors don't want to check it. I had emergency clil removal and, believe me or not it will sort my problems. But it didnt.They done, here in Uk MRI scan and checked my kidney with cr scan, when I was in hospital for the kidney stones, and said they can't see problem. I have some bulges in my l4l5 and s1 but they said there is no nerve compression....I do believe I have prolapsed cervix or intestine cos after going to toilet the pain of my pelvic and back and annus it's unbearable...Painkillers not working. I forgot to say that since they catheterised me I had been having UTI 5 times (in 2 months) and some problems with my vagina after coil removed. All the time infections, trush etc. The worst part is that I started to horrible muscle cramps in my both toes, but right is much worse and I am loosing the feeling in my toes. Hard to walk...Maybe you ask yourself now if I am mental, believe me anyone would get depression and anxiety of they would be me. I never had any problems like that and I am not sure what is the cause and what is solution. Of there is any solution....? Today is really bad day. I barely slept, I strained the muscles on the toilet going 4 times today and no my back, anus and pelvic is killing me. I tried to have a sex twice, after organising o have such a horrible pain in my pelvic i can't stand it...not like is better without sex but after sex is maximum and it's hard to come. I have ruined my life I don't know which of the parts contributed but my life is over for sure. I didn't go to work for already 2 months I lost 10 kilos I weight now same as my 10 years old..My partner its not like my partner no more, noone cares about me, noone talks to me. I pushed away all of my friends becasue I am daily in so much pain I dont want to talk to anyone....Gabriel doesn't even care, he doesnt even ask how I am...neither my 10 years old. She is autistic but mild autism, so she should be more engaged right? I have enough of this pain and have w enough of myself....I am not sure how much longer I can stand this pain....I am exhausted from not sleeping...crying everyday. Someone's give me hope....please cos I have no hope. My hope it's gone. I dont know whats wrong with me. Why I am getting worse? I want to be back on my feet and be good mum again and back to work and be a better partner so maybe my partner will be better for me as well...I regret everything. I just want the pain to be gone..... Is it only in my head? I DONT THINK SO..

#pelvic

[pseudowho]

Does the vagina go back to normal after “geriatric” childbirth? I feel so childish asking but I’m SCARED

Very, very variable from person to person. There is a stack of things that can change (wounds, prolapse, weakening of the vaginal walls, cysts), to varying different degrees.

I'm having a little hunt to find it, but I do recall seeing 'advanced maternal age' as a risk factor for increased chance of prolapses and significant tears in childbirth, likely because of that age-related loss of tissue elasticity, and the increased chances that Obstetric teams will medicalise your birth purely for your age (and thereby increasing the chance of instrumental deliveries and other things).

A caesarean also isn't a guarantee that things won't change vaginally, because there is also some evidence to show that it's the specific hormonal changes of pregnancy, and the weight of the gravid uterus on the pelvic floor, that cause vaginal changes.

Ultimately, there are so so so many variables at play, that it's going to be unknown territory for you. We don't quite know how any one person's vagina will change after childbirth.

What I can recommend, to reduce your chances of birth related injury, and simply taking care of your pelvic floor and vagina, is perineal massage prior to birth, DO YOUR KEGELS/PELVIC FLOOR EXERCISES BEFORE AND AFTER, and make sure you're emptying your bladder often. I couldn't offer any other advice that wouldn't be specific to you or the birth itself.

Most women report some degree of 'change' vaginally after birth, but not many report long term, life impacting negative changes.

I'll carry on digging around for my evidence sources if I have the time!

Hope this helps. Try not to freak out. I've been there too.

Love,

-- Haitch xxx

[queerpyracy]

it turns out that what we thought was just a miscarriage was a lot more serious for poppy, in that during the night she had a uterine prolapse that pulled her bladder out as well. we got the emergency vet up here this morning but even on the low odds that she could have got everything back in its right place without poppy prolapsing again, she would get some really terrible infections from it. we aren't able to get any mobile slaughter truck out here today to salvage anything, so we're just going to have to put her down.

i'm. really fucking devastated. poppy is a one and a million cow and it isn't fair that this should happen to her when she's still so young. but i can't make her suffer. if there was absolutely anything we could have done to avoid this, we would have. she's the only cow i've ever given serious consideration to keeping as a milk cow if she wouldn't breed again, i would have done anything for her if she was still going to be healthy.

at a later time i'll find some of the old pictures of her i have on here but i can't handle that right now. i'm hoping to get her calf iris and our earlier orphan alice penned together where we can get them both on extra feed and i can handle iris a bit more and keep her gentle and friendly. she's poppy's only daughter and i'm not letting her go anywhere.

[maaarine]

Sexy But Psycho: How the Patriarchy Uses Women’s Trauma Against Them (Jessica Taylor, 2022)

"Despite research showing that autoimmune issues are more likely in women due to our immune systems being more flexible and more complicated than men’s to enable us to carry and grow a foetus during pregnancy, half of women will receive a psychiatric diagnosis before being diagnosed correctly with an autoimmune condition.

In 2020, a review into the vaginal mesh scandal in the UK found that thousands of women had been dismissed as having psychological and psychiatric issues when they raised concerns.

Vaginal mesh is a piece of material that can be used in surgery to treat pelvic organ prolapse and bladder incontinence in women, usually after childbirth.

However, when women started to complain that the mesh was causing them significant pain during sex and in their day-to-day lives, their concerns were met with the usual accusation: psychiatric issues.

Many women were told that they were mentally ill hypochondriacs who were complaining about something small.

It is clear that women are being failed – and ultimately, psychiatry has a lot to answer for.

Women are routinely told that they are overreacting, exaggerating or lying about their pain or symptoms – and are often told that they have health anxiety.

Despite doctors regularly ridiculing women for Googling symptoms and health advice, women are more and more likely to turn to internet forums, Facebook support groups and academic journals for their health advice.

Sick of the process of being gaslit for ten minutes in a rushed GP appointment whilst a doctor tells them that it’s all in their heads, women are now much less likely to seek help than they ever have been."

[dreaminginstasis]

it’s weird how when you say one of the reasons you don’t want to get pregnant is because it ruins your body and someone will go that’s misogynistic!!! like no, Stephanie, I’m talking about the physical and often long lasting effects of prolapse, bladder and bowel damage, and tearing from v to a. also the possible death

[nebbbula2]

Hello Plane and Car People!

Sorry for not being active my bladder prolapsed :(

I've been feeling extra shitty and haven't had the motivation to do fandom stuff for a minute now. My pelvic floor has been deteriorating for a while.

I really value the friendships I've made in the world of cars fandom, and I hope I can get back to you soon. I have another Blade angst fic in the works *rubs hands together evilly*

[nebbbula]

Hello Train People!

Sorry for not being active my bladder prolapsed :(

I've been feeling extra shitty and haven't had the motivation to do fandom stuff for a minute now. My pelvic floor has been deteriorating for a while.

I still love and appreciate all of you, though. The ttte fandom is my oasis except I don't have the strength to walk to it this time.

[viterbofangirl]

SO VITERBOFANGIRL, HOW IS YOUR PERIOD GOING TODAY???

WELL

Thanks to an issue that I am 99% sure is a uterine prolapse but am too poor at the moment to get diagnosed properly, my cramps today felt like really bad abdominal gas, constipation, AND a bladder infection ALL AT THE SAME TIME!!!